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Post by medfordpiney on Mar 6, 2011 13:29:20 GMT -5
Taking credit where credit is due?  From their facebook page..... Posted Feb 28th Pinelands Preservation Alliance PPA is pleased to have played a role in forming this new organization, the NJ Trail Lovers Coalition: www.njtlc.org/ This is a group organized to help guard and protect the natural open spaces of New Jersey, with diversity of members, including 4WD enthusiasts, Geocachers, Enduro riders, Hikers, Artists, Kayakers, Equestrians, Hunters, Cross Country Skiers, Mountain Bikers and Campers... |
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Post by tneigel on Mar 6, 2011 15:30:41 GMT -5
Thinking?
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Post by jeepinjp on Mar 6, 2011 23:00:08 GMT -5
Interesting....
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Post by russ on Mar 7, 2011 7:39:06 GMT -5
Seems like a good thing to me. We ought to make a list of all the organizations that have given us a stamp of approval.
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trailhead00
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I can ride in MD, PA and NY. Not in NJ?
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Post by trailhead00 on Mar 7, 2011 10:08:31 GMT -5
What role did they play in forming this organization?
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Post by russ on Mar 7, 2011 10:17:38 GMT -5
I was a PPA employee when I first started coordinating with the Jeep clubs.
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trailhead00
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I can ride in MD, PA and NY. Not in NJ?
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Post by trailhead00 on Mar 7, 2011 10:28:42 GMT -5
Oh, didn't know, that's why I asked. Fair enough, thanks for the answer!
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Post by HamiltonLJ on Mar 7, 2011 12:40:44 GMT -5
Russ Shouldn't that be when the Jeep clubs started coordinating with you? From what I remember the Jeep clubs contacted you. And the NJTLC wasn't started until after you left the PPA.
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Post by melcrim on Mar 7, 2011 20:52:10 GMT -5
Seems to me that the PPA is taking credit for something they didn't do. That Facebook post should have be worded differently, such as "support NJTLC" or "join NJTLC".
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Post by jeepinjp on Mar 8, 2011 9:42:15 GMT -5
Seems to me that the PPA is taking credit for something they didn't do. That Facebook post should have be worded differently, such as "support NJTLC" or "join NJTLC". x2 |
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Post by russ on Mar 8, 2011 10:40:36 GMT -5
Russ Shouldn't that be when the Jeep clubs started coordinating with you? From what I remember the Jeep clubs contacted you. And the NJTLC wasn't started until after you left the PPA. I won't quibble with you, but the meaning is the same whichever way you say it. I didn't mean to imply anything except that we began to coordinate with each other. And I have never failed to inform people that the Jeep clubs were the stars of the show. Unlike PPA, which can only claim to have "played a role." |
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Post by russ on Mar 8, 2011 10:48:22 GMT -5
Seems to me that the PPA is taking credit for something they didn't do. That Facebook post should have be worded differently, such as "support NJTLC" or "join NJTLC". Is the glass half full or half empty? Are we happy that PPA endorsed us on its Facebook page? Or are we resentful that maybe they claimed too much credit by saying they "played a role." |
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Post by medfordpiney on Mar 8, 2011 13:18:11 GMT -5
Endorsing and playing a role are far different. It would not be the first time they grandstanded as “playing a role”, in a statement by JR of PPA she said… “The joint cooperation among the elected officials and conservation groups for the past two years has pushed the ORV community to create a non-profit organization, per our collective recommendation, that has access to state motorized recreation money for creating an ORV facility. Recently, this ORV non-profit group was awarded over $1 million dollars to purchase land for a facility in South Jersey. The ORV riders have the opportunity to receive $300,000 yearly for trail creation and maintenance.” Link… See page 5 www.pinelandsalliance.org/downloads/pinelandsalliance_219.pdf"opinions and those expressed are strictly determined by my own beliefs and assumptions and are no way considered factual in any way.....  " |
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Post by melcrim on Mar 8, 2011 19:15:22 GMT -5
Russ Shouldn't that be when the Jeep clubs started coordinating with you? From what I remember the Jeep clubs contacted you. And the NJTLC wasn't started until after you left the PPA. I won't quibble with you, but the meaning is the same whichever way you say it. I didn't mean to imply anything except that we began to coordinate with each other. And I have never failed to inform people that the Jeep clubs were the stars of the show. Unlike PPA, which can only claim to have "played a role." Russ I must disagree with you on this one. "the meaning is the same whichever way you say it" is not correct. When PPA makes a statement saying they are pleased to announce that they played a role in forming NJTLC it has a different meaning then if they stated they are pleased to announce that the are supporting (or joining) NJTLC. One implies being on board from the beginning the other implies they came later. It's good that to have many organizations on board with us I don't disagree with that. |
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Post by daddyz on Mar 9, 2011 23:22:49 GMT -5
I love the enthusiasm! The sooner we start working together and stop focusing on the distractions the better. Lets show them how we are going to lead the way with our own good works. Its the only way the State is going to take us seriously.
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